Jeff H.
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Post by Jeff H. on Mar 12, 2012 20:16:56 GMT -8
Well, I think my old Turbo S wheel is on skid row. When I turn it on, I get 888 on the display and it doesn't do its auto-centering thing. I can turn the wheel all the way one direction or the other and the 888 goes away and it shows the three dash marks ---. It still works in game but there is no force feedback at all. It feels like I'm driving with a wet noodle.  |
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Seahawks1Fan
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Post by Seahawks1Fan on Mar 12, 2012 20:21:39 GMT -8
Same thing happened to me. One of the wires that goes to the motor came loose. I ended up soldering it back on. Very tight fit, but managed to get it done.
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Dan W.
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Post by Dan W. on Mar 12, 2012 20:25:02 GMT -8
#1. Pull up pants, wet noodle feeling will go away... ;D #2. Check for what Hawks said.  |
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Seahawks1Fan
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Post by Seahawks1Fan on Mar 12, 2012 20:31:15 GMT -8
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Post by zero7159 on Mar 13, 2012 17:34:10 GMT -8
Man, it's tight in there, and the fan is way too small. No wonder why so many Turbo S and GT2 wheels crap out.
Hawks, you should just end it and get the Elite. If you are down here in Eugene, you are welcome to come by and take it for a test drive.
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Jeff H.
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Post by Jeff H. on Mar 14, 2012 4:26:14 GMT -8
Thanks Hawks. I'll pop the cover and see what I can find. If I can't fix it, which Fanatec wheel would you guys suggest? The elite is way out of my range, so it would be between the CSR and the GT2 since I also want XBox compatibility.
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Post by helios16v on Mar 14, 2012 5:41:36 GMT -8
I prefer the GT2 personally...I can't stand the wheel of the CSR. I can pretty much assure youLawyer (Zero) will vouch for the CSR hands down over the GT2. Best bet it to see if anyone in the clan is reasonable close to you w/ the CSR so you can compare for yourself first hand.
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Post by zero7159 on Mar 14, 2012 6:31:04 GMT -8
I prefer the GT2 personally...I can't stand the wheel of the CSR. I can pretty much assure youLawyer (Zero) will vouch for the CSR hands down over the GT2. Best bet it to see if anyone in the clan is reasonable close to you w/ the CSR so you can compare for yourself first hand. Helios is correct, I do recommend the CSR over the GT 2, but both wheels are nonetheless excellent. I owned a GT2 for over a year, and have owned my CSR since October. I will send you my review of the CSR, which includes a comparison to the GT2. In short, the CSR has bigger vents and better cooling than the GT2. The CSR is $50 cheaper than the GT2. The CSR also has much better paddle shifters. The CSR's force feedback is smoother and more diverse. But, on the other hand, the GT2 has alcantara leather all over the wheel, so you can put your hands wherever you want. The CSR's rim is mostly plastic, with alcantara only being in the 9 and 3 o'clock grip positions. If you use the 10 and 2 o'clock positions, you might go with the GT2. |
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Post by Jeff H. on Mar 14, 2012 6:41:55 GMT -8
I really like the feel of the Turbo S. The GT2 looks very similar so I'm thinking it would feel better for me. Did you sell your GT2 Lawyer?
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Post by zero7159 on Mar 14, 2012 8:16:02 GMT -8
I really like the feel of the Turbo S. The GT2 looks very similar so I'm thinking it would feel better for me. Did you sell your GT2 Lawyer? I did sell my GT2 to a fellow 2Old2Play clan member. Sorry.  Here is my review of the CSR, which includes a comparison to the GT2. Keep in mind I did the review in late October, and thus it is somewhat outdated, but the comparison and description of the pros and cons remains valid. "OK, here is my review of the Fanatec Forza CSR wheel. Its an update of my preview, with additional thoughts and a score. I have spent about 15 hours with the wheel since this past Monday, in both Forza 4 and GT5 (sorry, but I did not use it yet with Dirt 3 or Richard Burns Rally; I am too hooked on Forza 4 and GT5). In this review, I also will include my thoughts on how it compares to the Fanatec Porsche GT2 wheel. In summary, the Forza CSR wheel is an awesome addition to Fanatec's line up, that will work for almost any sim racer out there. Overall, I give it a 9/10. Its well worth the $250 price tag. First, this is a beautiful wheel. Looks better than the GT2 as far as aesthetics go. It also has bigger vents, presumably for better ventilation. The box even looks awesome. The wheel runs noticeably cooler than the GT2, even after hours of racing on 100% force feedback. The buttons on the front are much more functional and better placed than the buttons on the GT2. The control stick is an awesome addition, although it does feel a little loose. The blue LED looks awesome. The Forza theme is loud and clear and I love it. So glad to see a Forza themed wheel. Second, as with the GT2, the CSR wheel works with Xbox, PS3 and PC. You cannot beat the compatibility. The only downside is that with the CSR wheel, you cannot use the wireless dongle to connect wirelessly to the PS3 and PC. The wireless dongle does work with the GT2, although it sometimes malfunctioned for me and so I stopped using it. Third, set up is cake. Truly plug and play. There are nine different settings you can adjust, just like the GT2. The biggies are sensitivity and force feedback, but there also are many other settings for those of you that love to tinker. You can adjust the settings mid-race. Fourth, the grip of the wheel is much different than the GT2. If you race with your hands in the 9 and 3 o'clock positions, you are good to go. The wheel feels great in those positions, particularly the rubber and alcantara. If you race at the 10 and 2 o'clock positions, then you may not like this wheel. The top of the wheel is cheap plastic and so I did not want to rest my hands up there. That is OK with me, since I bought this wheel, in part, so I could try something different, in particular racing with my hands in the 9 and 3 o'clock positions. Fifth, the paddle shifters are the best I have ever felt in any wheel, including the GT2, MS wheel and Logitech Driving Force GT. Its not even close. They feel solid and they make a good tactile click. Awesome Fanatec, well done. When I switched back to the GT2 this morning, the paddle shifters on it felt loose and small compared to the paddle shifters on the Forza CSR wheel. Sixth, the force feedback is smooth and more subtle than the GT2. The wheel is lighter than the GT2, but you feel more during turns and when you run into things or run over things. It seems like Fanatec has re-worked the FFB to be more diverse, whereas the GT2 is more heavy. Don't get me wrong, I love the GT2, it just feels more heavy than the CSR wheel. When you race in GT5 with the Formula Gran Turismo, the force feedback is intense, I assume because of the weight shifts of the car. Seventh, the CSR shifters are incredible, much better than the plastic Porsche shifters. The metal feels so good in your hands, plus they shift much more smoothly. Again, well done Fanatec, you have done it again. Keep in mind that the CSR shifters are extra, but they are well worth the $60 purchase price. I plan to buy a set for my GT2 wheel. So, those are my thoughts. I hope you can tell that I love this wheel, the Clubsport pedals and CSR shifter it is connected to and the Rennsport wheel stand that it is mounted on. Many of you that are reading this review might wonder - which wheel do I recommend? The Forza CSR or the GT2? Well, I give the nod to the CSR because of several factors. The paddle shifters are much better, the force feedback is smoother and more diverse, the CSR looks better and I believe that the 9 and 3 o'clock positions are the better way to race, even though I am not yet totally comfortable with my hands in those positions. That being said, if you cannot put your hands in the 9 and 3 o'clock positions, and instead prefer the 10 and 2 o'clock positions, then the CSR wheel is not for you. Rather, go with the GT2. The Fanatec GT2 wheel is superb and I am so glad I have it. " |
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Post by zedarchitect on Mar 14, 2012 8:23:55 GMT -8
I was worried about buying the CSR over the GT2 but when they released the CSR XL package and announced that the ACL would not come to the older wheels I pulled the trigger. I still think the GT2 looks better and would have a better feel in my hands but I have no complaints about the CSR. It works great and feels good in the 9-3 position. I can deal with the plastic rim. The paddles are very nice. I guess my one complaint is that the ACL update is still not out (I still play FM4, but not as much). I am just getting used to the load cell brake int he CSR-E pedals but they are great. Hope that helps.
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Jeff H.
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Post by Jeff H. on Mar 14, 2012 10:17:22 GMT -8
Great write up Lawyer! Thanks for all the info. I think I'm leaning toward the GT2. Or I could get the GT3 since I'm not playing Forza anymore! I think it's like 179.
Oh, and since the GT2 looks similar to the Turbo S, maybe the wife wouldn't notice....
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Post by zero7159 on Mar 14, 2012 11:20:44 GMT -8
Great write up Lawyer! Thanks for all the info. I think I'm leaning toward the GT2. Or I could get the GT3 since I'm not playing Forza anymore! I think it's like 179. Oh, and since the GT2 looks similar to the Turbo S, maybe the wife wouldn't notice.... I forgot about the GT3. You could go with that, and then see about getting the Turbo S fixed as a back up. I personally have the CSR Elite as my primary wheel, but I kept my CSR as a back up and hopefully for my kids to use eventually. |
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Post by mrbasherman on Mar 15, 2012 9:59:54 GMT -8
stinky... If you end up buying a new wheel, I would like your old one if you are willing to part with it. Let me know. Thanks. Seahawks, try to keep light off of your wheel while using it with the cover off. It can do some weird crap sometimes because the sensor picks up other light and it confuses it.  Just something to think about if it acts funny while using it with the cover off. Point your tv remote at it while pushing some buttons on the remote and see what happens.  |
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Post by mrbasherman on Mar 15, 2012 10:03:41 GMT -8
Oh and PS, the size of the wires going to that motor are nowhere near large enough to handle the kind of amps the thing draws. This means the wires get nice and hot... Subsequently solder joints, most likely lead based ones since they are made in China where rules don't really apply, fail. (lead based solder melts and a lower temp) I have my own wheel to fix. It's pulling this bullsh** where if I steer to quickly the belt pops on the cogs and my centering gets messed up. I can't see where it's possible to tighten either My goal is to tear one of them completely apart and replace the plastic bits with machined aluminum but I need a donor wheel to start that process. AND, everyone, for whatever reason seems to want to keep their broken Fanatec wheels as "backup" |
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I had to remove the little tan circuit board (it's a sensor) and the black gear to get to it. Also used a cold heat soldering iron to avoid melting something else in the process. 
