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Post by Jarhead on Feb 15, 2013 11:03:00 GMT -8
Thanks F1 and Knight. I'm always looking at the newest, latest products, whether they be hardware or software, but I rarely jump in on the ground floor. I like the bugs to get worked out, especially in software before making the switch. For example, I have been following iRacing from their very beginning and been on their email list as long as they have had one, but didn't sign up until the end of last year.
In the past, I have never jumped on the new Windows operating systems until they have had plenty of time to work out the numerous bugs and compatibility issues. Microsoft has a long history of releasing software which should still be in beta testing and letting the end users be the beta testers. Unless I hear a very compelling argument for Win 8, I am really leaning towards Win 7 as it is a proven operating system that has most of the bugs worked out.
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Post by zedarchitect on Feb 15, 2013 11:05:14 GMT -8
Win8 reminds me of WinME. I made the mistake back then but will not this time around.
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Post by zero7159 on Feb 15, 2013 11:24:46 GMT -8
I actually don't disagree with F1. Like him, I recommend Windows 7 for a gaming PC.
I personally use two PCs at home, a desktop PC for my photos, pictures, documents etc., and a gaming PC for, well, gaming. LOL! I upgraded the desktop PC from Windows 7 to Windows 8 last Fall on the day Windows 8 was released and it has performed well. The upgrade was cake. My desktop PC has an AMD 6870 GPU and so I run triple screens on it. Windows 8 is faster than 7. The metro UI looks really cool spread across my three 24 inch Dell 1920 X 1200 monitors. But, I do tend to run programs out of the desktop rather than the metro UI. So, the metro UI is something for me to play with, not seriously use.
I do not intend to upgrade my gaming PC to Windows 8 anytime soon. I just don't see the point. The system works well, although it did blue screen last night while I was loading iRacing. Its probably a random occurrence. I also have an intermittent issue where it won't boot into Windows. Its likely a PSU issue and I have a brand new spare ready for install if and when the current PSU fails. Overall, my Windows 7-based gaming PC is the fastest, best PC I have ever used.
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Post by F1Fan07 on Feb 15, 2013 11:30:13 GMT -8
Oh my bad, I thought you'd converted the gaming PC to Win 8.
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Post by zero7159 on Feb 15, 2013 11:33:32 GMT -8
Oh my bad, I thought you'd converted the gaming PC to Win 8. Nope, I am leaving well enough alone. The only other issue I am confronting with the gaming PC is disk space. My iRacing stuff is approaching 100 GB, and I have less than 100 GB left on my primary 1 TB hard drive. I have a second 2 TB hard drive installed, but its a slower 5400 RPM green drive. I am toying with moving the rFactor stuff to the second, slower drive, since they will run fast on pretty much anything, and leave the more modern, larger games on the primary hard drive. |
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Post by Jarhead on Feb 15, 2013 12:15:10 GMT -8
Ok, it is ordered with Windows 7 pro. Now the waiting game begins. To save an extra 5%, I ordered it no rush so I'm not expecting it before mid March.
Now I just need to get the monitors and monitor stand. For the monitors I have a question. Do I need a display port? I have narrowed the monitor down to 2 choices, ASUS VE278H or VE278Q. The Q model has display port and the H model doesn't. My GPU is AMD 7970 3GB.
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Post by spazsterian on Feb 15, 2013 12:18:35 GMT -8
I'd leave the iRacing where it is Craig. Otherwise i beleive you are going to have to redirect everytime they update , and we all know that's constant. Move everyone of you rFactor sims to the spare, and put shortcuts to them. THe speed of the drive only matter for access ( your initial start up of the program) and writing to them. You aren't going to really notice the difference that much, it might be a plit second more to start up is all.
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Post by spazsterian on Feb 15, 2013 12:19:31 GMT -8
And I agree with the other Troy. Win 7 Pro is the only way to go for now. I'll look at Win 8 again when it hits SP3 lol
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Post by Knight of Redemption on Feb 15, 2013 12:20:50 GMT -8
None of my monitors have a display port, so no. :-) I run one off the HDMI, and the other two off the DVI's with a converter for the DVI 1 output.
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Post by zero7159 on Feb 15, 2013 12:21:45 GMT -8
Ok, it is ordered with Windows 7 pro. Now the waiting game begins. To save an extra 5%, I ordered it no rush so I'm not expecting it before mid March. Now I just need to get the monitors and monitor stand. For the monitors I have a question. Do I need a display port? I have narrowed the monitor down to 2 choices, ASUS VE278H or VE278Q. The Q model has display port and the H model doesn't. My GPU is AMD 7970 3GB. I use triples with my AMD 6870 GPU and call tell you that the set up process was much simpler because each of my monitors have Display Port. If you get the other monitor, you will need to deal with DisplayPort adapters, which are a PIA. Go with the monitors that have DisplayPort and save yourself the hassle. |
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Post by Knight of Redemption on Feb 15, 2013 12:40:51 GMT -8
Oh yeah just spotted he has an AMD GPU...ignore my comment there Jarhead I run Nvidea so can't help there.
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F1Fan07
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Post by F1Fan07 on Feb 15, 2013 12:45:54 GMT -8
Ignoring any technical differences my preference is always for a locking connector (DP or DVI).
HDMI is a poor choice if you're like me and moving things around all the time... the interface has minimal retention strength and it won't be long before you're troubleshooting a display that randomly blanks out.
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Post by Jarhead on Feb 15, 2013 14:32:28 GMT -8
Ok, I have 3 Asus VS278P-Q monitors in my cart ready to order. They each have 1 D-sub, 2 HDMI, and 1 display port. What cables do you all recommend to connect them all to an AMD 7970 video card?
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Post by zero7159 on Feb 15, 2013 14:41:02 GMT -8
Ok, I have 3 Asus VS278P-Q monitors in my cart ready to order. They each have 1 D-sub, 2 HDMI, and 1 display port. What cables do you all recommend to connect them all to an AMD 7970 video card? Well, that is one of the AMD specific hassles. Your card likely has two mini-DisplayPort, one or two DVI and one HDMI connection. One monitor must be hooked up via DisplayPort in order for Eyefinity to work. If it were me, I would just hook up two of the monitors via DisplayPort. Except, a standard DisplayPort cable won't work. You will need two DisplayPort to Mini-DisplayPort cables. For the other monitor, I know HDMI will work, that is how I connect my third monitor for my desktop PC. I don't know whether DVI will work, I seem to recall having trouble with that when I set up my triples with my desktop PC. Buy your cables at monoprice.com. Their prices and quality are excellent. |
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Post by Jarhead on Feb 15, 2013 16:15:19 GMT -8
So will I have to wait to get the PC to find out what cables I need? I would like to have the cables ready so I can hook it up right away. The monitors only have d-sub, HDMI, and display port. I'm not sure about the GPU. What are the possible combinations? I don't mind having extra cables. I would rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.
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